BALLON Berthe

Abt 1070 -

• Name	BALLON Berthe
  Birth	Abt 1070	France
  Gender	Female
  Notes	Not the daughter of Dru de Ballon No evidence has been found that she was the daughter of Dru de Ballon and she has been disconnected from that profile. Charles Cawley, Foundation for Medieval Genealogy "Walter of Gloucester married Berthe, daughter of . . . "Walterus de Gloucestria, assensu Milonis filii mei et Berthæ uxoris meæ" donated "ecclesiam de Cernay…ecclesiam… Sanctæ Helenæ de Halgestane…terram…de Westwode in Herchenefelde" to Gloucester St Peter by undated charter[328]. The Complete Peerage suggests that Berthe was a relative of Hamelin de Ballon Lord of Abergavenny, citing the passage from the Historia fundationis cum fundatoris genealogia of the priory of Abergavenny quoted above[329]. However, there are two difficulties with this hypothesis. Firstly, it is Walter, not his son, who is described as “consanguineo” of Brien FitzCount, suggesting that the relationship must have been through Walter’s parents not his wife. Secondly, doubt exists about the relationship between Brien FitzCount (generally identified as the illegitimate son of Alain IV Duke of Brittany, although the primary source which confirms that this affiliation is correct has not yet been traced) and Hamelin de Ballon, as discussed more fully in the document WALES (Lords of Abergavenny). The Complete Peerage also cites[330] the undated charter under which “Willielmus de Braosa” confirmed donations to Abergavenny Priory by “Hamelinus de Balon et Brientius comitis filius et Walterus de Herefort et Henricus de Herefort”[331]. This document does suggest a close relationship between the two families. However, a family connection through the mother of Miles of Gloucester is not the only possibility. Walter & his wife had [three] children[1]: Miles of Gloucester, Earl of Hereford (d 24 Dec 1143) Matilda (m. Richard FitzPons) _ _ _ _ _. (Had child Renaud, d 25 Aug 1149) Did Walter marry Emma instead? Some modern sources make the spurious claim that Walter married Emma, sister of Hamelin de Balun. This was put forward by the herald Robert Glover, apparently in an attempt to explain the association with the lordship of Abergavenny. Brian fitz Count granted the honour of Abergavenny to Miles of Gloucester between July 1141 and December 1142, Empress Matilda issuing a charter confirming the deed. Abergavenny bordered Miles’s honour of Brecknock, solidifying his base in the region. [2] Sources ↑ http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm ↑ Reed, Paul C. "The Seymour Family of Hatch, Somerset, and de la Mare Family of Little Hereford" (2010) p. 229, footnote 76. Weber, Jim. "The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest," RootsWeb. Wikipedia:Walter_of_Gloucester.
  Person ID	I60215	Freeman-Smith
  Last Modified	27 Jan 2026

  
  

  Family	FITZROGER Walter,   b. Abt 1065, Gloucestershire, England d. 1129, Abbey, Gloucestershire, England (Age 64 years)
  Marriage	1087	England
  Children	1. FITZWALTER Matilda,   b. Aft 1087, Frampton, Gloucestershire, England d. Aft 1127, Frampton, Gloucestershire, England (Age > 40 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
  Family ID	F26722	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	27 Jan 2026