UNKNOWN Pavie

0993 - 1058  (~ 64 years)

• Name	UNKNOWN Pavie
  Birth	0993	France
  Gender	Female
  Death	1058	Vermandois, France
  Notes	Name: Pavie or Pavia[1] de le Ham Alias Patia; Parvie Title: Countess Vermandois; Comtesse de Vermandois Birth: 980 - 1000 France The origins of Pavia are generally said to be unknown. Pavia (last name unknown; she has been incorrectly called Pavia de Ham) was the wife of Eudes, Count of Vermandois, son of Héribert, Count of Vermandois. She is named as the mother of Count Heribert VI of Vermandois in a charter dated 13 January/13 October 1045[2]. The Wikipedia page gives Otto and Pavia 4 children and cites MedLands as its main source, without mentioning that MedLands supports only one of the 4 children, Heribert the heir. There is a record of Count Heribert (the said heir) having a brother Otto in 1076. The notion that he was the same person as Odo de Furneaux seems to be an invention of the usual forces of chaos. Simon is apparently a much older invention, to connect the Seigneurs de Ham. Described here. Note this theory is based on the Counts of Vermandois having previously possessed Ham, which is at odds with the notion that Pavia brought it. Various copycat sites say that Brandenburg shows Pierre. Brandenburg did the Charlemagne version of the American family genealogy book, but with a 1000-year time lag. I expect he got Pierre from the Sohier family pedigree book. This other Wikipedia page decides to merge the obscure Otto with the theoretical Simon to create the fabulous "Eudes I Count of Ham". Note Profile was originally attached to King Henri I of France and Anna Iaroslavna. This was clearly incorrect, as no source mentions a daughter named Pavia born to this couple. The profile has been disconnected from incorrect parents. Profile had the middle name "Emma" added . Who is Emma? Sources ↑ See FMG.ac or husband's profile. ↑ Charles Cawley, Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, Nothern France -Valois, Vexin & Vermandois, Chap. 3A Comtes de Vermandois (Carolingian) Eudes de Vermandois accessed 23 July 2017 Ancestry Family Trees: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=21525863&pid=1552827324 Ancestry Family Trees: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=21525863&pid=1552859379 This person was created through the import of Williams_AndersForWikiTree.ged on 07 May 2011.
  Person ID	I59161	Freeman-Smith
  Last Modified	27 Jan 2026

  
  

  Family	VERMANDOIS Eudes,   b. 29 Aug 0979, Vermandois, Normandy, France d. 25 May 1045, Vermandois, Normandy, France (Age 65 years)
  Marriage	1027	Vermandois, Normandy, France
  Children	1. VERMANDOIS Herbert,   b. 1028, Vermandois, France d. 1080, Vermandois, France (Age 52 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
  Family ID	F26308	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	27 Jan 2026